Confirming Fact I’m Not Young Anymore - Revisiting Punk Rock Days / Unique Way Of Record Collecting
Orlando March 2025
Transcript
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Welcome everyone. Adam the Woo here as
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the recording of this is Tuesday, March
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25th, 2025. I'm going to head from here
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in celebration backside of the 7-Eleven
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here. Got my coffee. I'm going to head
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to downtown
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Orlando. I had like a bug on my cheek
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there. Do some record shopping. Go to
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two places. I got a record player
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yesterday. First time in over 25 years.
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Probably closer to 30 years that I've
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had a record player. and trying to do
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some shopping for vinyl that's based
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around memories, either memories of
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bands, where said bands had their album
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covers taken or, you know, things of
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that nature. I want to have a story
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behind each and every well, not each and
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every, but a good majority of the
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records that I purchase. Also going to
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go to downtown Orlando, see what's
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happening in the downtown area. Rock and
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Roll Heaven and Park Avenue CDs. Two
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places I haven't been in a long time.
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I'm going to pop in there today. I'm
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inviting you and also just see where the
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rest of the day leads. I'm inviting you
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to join
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me. Good to have you here. It's a great
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day. Shall you? and have now made the
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commute to downtown Orlando
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where the tire is locked up, but nothing
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else
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is DTO for short. Guess they're calling
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downtown Orlando DTO now.
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DTO. I always always like the Walt
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Disney Amphitheater at Lake Eol. It's
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down here. This was dedicated back in
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October of '89 by Bill Frederick, who
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was the mayor at the time. Pretty good
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view of the fountain over there in the
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distance. And the Walt Disney Theater,
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named after the man, Walt Disney. You
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may have heard of him. Over here, we
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have the very
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famous downtown landmark, The Woman on
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the
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Burm. All
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right, this is pretty dang
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exciting. But this Marita sign way back
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in the day. You know, I moved here in
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'91. I started driving in '91. I was 17
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years old in 1991. Got my first car, got
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my driver's license, started to go on a
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bunch of shows, punk shows, first
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started getting music, first cassette
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tapes, and then a year or two after
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that,
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CDs. And a lot of the stuff I'm going to
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buy today on vinyl is things that I
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bought back in those early 90s years
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when I first started getting my driver's
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license. They're they're albums that
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really hold a special place in my heart.
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And when I was driving to a lot of the
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stores to get those albums, which was a
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big part of my life back then, I would
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drive down I4 and you pass the Marita
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Bread Company and you would smell the
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fresh bread.
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Anyone in the Orlando area in the '9s,
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the mid mid to late 90s, driving on I4,
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guarantee if you ask them about this,
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they will know exactly what this is.
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I've arrived now at the Orlando Fashion
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Square Mall, which has seen better days.
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There are a few businesses still open,
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but all in all, not in the glory that it
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once was. I meet up with a buddy here.
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Used to be in a band with me years and
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years ago called TNT.
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This place definitely is not in its
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prime and not thriving as it once was in
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that same era of the time frame that I
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am referring to which is mostly throwing
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back to the early 90s. The early 90s I
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would come in here was a lot of people
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just because you never know there's
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going to be a time when I am in this
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neck of the
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woods and this place will be closed.
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really is something
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else. An open
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theater and there's a Spencer that's
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still open. Hot Topic down there had a
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now closing everything must go sign on
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it. It's antie Ants
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empty. Really is quite the place. No
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longer a beehive of activity. The
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theater up there on the second floor
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still open though. All right, going to
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start heading out of this mall and head
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over to Rock and Roll Heaven, a record
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store. First record store stop off of
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the day is Rock and Roll Heaven. Been
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here forever in a day. After I stepped
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in, I realized I had been in here sooner
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than the last time. I thought it was 10
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years ago, but it has been less than a
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decade since I was in there. I was in
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there about six or seven years ago cuz I
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remember all the collectibles and the
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little knickknacks and toys and
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paraphernalia from, you know, movies and
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TV shows and pop culture and music
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obviously was all along the uh the
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perimeter and the roof line and the the
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ceiling and everything, but they also
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had a lot of vinyl. They definitely did
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not have all the different ones I was
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looking for, but I was able to find one
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in particular that I didn't think they
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were going to have, but I was able to
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get it. show that in a little bit when I
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get over to the one of the venues I'm
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going to. Also, the owner was like,
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"Hey, you want to see the bathroom? A
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lot of famous people have signed the
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bathroom." So, we were able to look
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inside the bathroom where for decades a
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lot of people have signed the the
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bathroom walls all inside the in the he
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kind of equated it to how CBGB's
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bathroom used to be where everybody
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would sign it. So, all right, we're
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going to head over now from Rock and
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Roll Heaven. We're going to go over to
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Park A CDs and see what they have in
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there. So, we're going to head over
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there. Right. Next up, Park Avenue CDs.
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CDs, vinyl, tapes, books, toys, and
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more. Again, it's been a while since
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I've been in here. It's been quite a
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while since I've been in Park A. I'm
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happy to say that was able to get a few
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albums over at Park A CDs. Not CDs, but
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they had
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vinyl. And the first spot, I've been
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here before, but I've returned. It's
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probably been over a year since I've
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been to this particular area in Fern
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Park in March of
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1994. 5 weeks, give or take a few days.
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In fact, it might have been a month and
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a half. It was less than 2 months after
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this album came out in February of
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1994. Then Long View came out after
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that. But this album came out and the
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band, even though they had a a pretty
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good underground following in the punk
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scene, they did not blow up on MTV
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yet until the first music video came
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out, which was after the show here. This
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was the station in Fern Park. The bands
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would load in around the back right
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here, and the
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venue was right here. The front entrance
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was over where that tractor trailer was.
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I saw many bands. I probably saw 50
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shows here, including Dead Milkman.
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Tried to find Big Lizard in my backyard.
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That LP, I was going to get that and
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mention that here, too.
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But of all the bands that played here,
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probably the one that went on to the
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most popularity is this band, Green Day.
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I bought a Green Day LP LP Klunk in
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Berkeley, which is the area Green Day
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originated from last time I was up in
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the Bay Area.
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know this spot before? Just driving by
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when it was a highlight spot. The
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highlight used to be right there. Right
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over there. Now it's a a church. It's
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called uh I don't know what it's called,
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but it's it's a church building. It used
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to be the high frontont. They didn't
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call them stadiums. They call them They
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call them frontons. Well, now it's
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haunted with high.
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So this was the
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station in Fern Park. I saw Screaming
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Cheetah Wheelies here. Also, I also saw
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Collective Soul here when WJRR was
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promoting him. No one knew who who the
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band was yet except people in Orlando. I
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think Orlando radio station was the
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first one to play Shine by Collective
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Soul and now they're they're superstars
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also in the music industry, but I saw
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them
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here. Infectious Grooves I saw here.
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Agnostic front
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straightfaced the Green Day show. Tilt
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played here. Tilt was the opening act.
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So I got to see Cinder block and the
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rest of them and
8:13
Tilt. Front entrance is right there.
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Stage would have been right
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here. Now there's going to be another
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spot that we're going to go to that 6
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months after the album came out. Well,
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the album came out in February. I saw
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Green Day here with about 200 people.
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I don't even know if the show was sold
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out. I mean, it was it was full, but you
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can see how how small the venue was.
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There was no security. First song was
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welcome to paradise. I staged over the
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whole show up on stage singing in the
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mic, jumping into the crowd.
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It was a time where we're going to go
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buy a spot where 6 months later into
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late summer, early fall, Green Day
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played in front of five or 6 thousand
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people. So, you know, many more than
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this small little venue. Right here was
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the edge of the stage. Crowd would have
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been out there. Very small crowd. It was
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basically just a little bar. I also saw
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Jackal here. Remember Jackal? guy had
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the uh the chainsaw and he play his
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guitar with the
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chainsaw. I was all over the place with
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my music taste back then.
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But dead milkman bitching Camaro right
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here. This is where the stage was. Stage
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was only a couple feet high. That might
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even be a brick from the old station.
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Maybe that's a little
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souvenir. I should take that if I see
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Billy Joe again. I can have him sign
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it. Like remember the
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station? He'd be like, "Get out my face
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with that. I don't care. Probably not.
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He'd probably be pretty. He'd probably
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be nicer than that.
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There you go. The 1994 breakthrough
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album. In fact, I can remember Billy
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standing in this exact spot. Well, give
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or take a few feet or inches. He was
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looking at the
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crowd, predominantly punk rock crowd.
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Wasn't really a radio crowd yet, and
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said, "We just filmed our first music
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video. It's going to be out on MTV."
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All the middle fingers went up.
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Sellouts, yelling, screaming. People
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were not happy about that and they just
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continued to play. Little did we
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know the phenomenon the band would
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become. Just picture a younger me and a
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lot thinner me circle pitting it up
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right here. Welcome to Paradise, the
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first song. I thought it was so cool
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that they opened up with that because
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the lyrics in that are the word the
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station and they were playing at the
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station. I was like Billy must he may be
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opening with that because it's called
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the station. At least in my mind I
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thought that's what it
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was. So yeah, that's the first spot. Got
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vinyl. Also on the back they've removed
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they removed they removed Bert right off
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the back of it. Used to be Bert there or
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was it Ernie? I think it was Bert. One
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of the people in the crowd had Bert but
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I guess that was frowned upon. So the
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the later releases they removed Bert
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from the crowd but the crowd's still
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there. See they uh digitized him out.
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There you go. Welcome to paradise.
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Yeah. It didn't even seem like it was
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that long ago. It's wild to be standing
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here knowing that this building's been
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gone for like over a decade. Is it Bert?
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It's Hell. No, it's not Hell no. Is that
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not? No, it was Bert or Ernie. It's
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Ernie. That's Ernie. It wasn't Bert. It
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was Ernie. See, there it is right there.
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Yep. And I'm sure they chose that
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because I thought it'd be kind of a
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funny back portion, but now that he's
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not in there, it's just a a crowd.
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How old were you 31 years ago? Six.
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Seven. Six. You're 37 now? Yeah. 31
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years ago. I was 20 in
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94. Wow. Let's watch the cat. Time
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flies.
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That makes me sad when I when I say it
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out loud how long ago that's
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been. I think Trey Cool has ever been
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back to the spot to
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reminisce. Many times I opened up, took
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the plastic off. You want to show the
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record? Pull that out there. Nice light
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blue vinyl. Thing of beauty still on
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What's on the back side of the of the
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sleeve
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there? There we go. Wow. Look at Billy
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there. Dirt
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Trey. It's wild. Fantasy Studios,
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Berkeley, California.
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Oh, the bookmobile. That's what they
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used to tour in. Which means the
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bookmobile would have probably been
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right there because they loaded in
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around the back. I should have had the
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wherewithal to walk around the back to
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see the bookmobile. You know, now that
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I'm saying
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that, I think I do remember the
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bookmobile kind of where that blue car
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was. I think they loaded in and I can I
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think I remember people going over there
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and seeing the bookmobile cuz that was
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the entrance. It's weird how that just
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kind of came back into my head. But the
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load in was like right
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there and then they went over there and
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parked over in the where the parking lot
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was. Worked the bookmobile over there.
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That's weird. I even kind of even
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remember that. All right, going to move
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on to the next spot. First album, first
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venue, a band that is much more
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wellknown than they were in March of
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94. Green Day have Green Day Tattoo
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right here,
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Kryplunk. All right, moving on. I have
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now made the commute over to Fairbanks
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Avenue, home of the former FBI. I was
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talking to the guy at Rock and Roll
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Heaven, who has been in this area for a
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long time. He was saying that the FBI,
14:16
Fairbanks out, the Fairbanks in, that
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was what it was called, the Fairbanks in
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the FBI on Fairbanks, was open from the
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70s
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on. He was saying Tom Petty used to hang
14:27
out at the FBI all the time. Obviously,
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Tom Petty, I think, was from Jack
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Gainesville, but he spent a lot of time
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in
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Orlando. And according to him, when I
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was when I was talking with the record
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store, he had some interesting stories
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being in the music scene for so long. I
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guess he said Tom Petty used to hang out
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at the FBI before I started having all
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the punk shows and stuff that I was
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going
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to. And again, I started getting into
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the scene in the early
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90s, but the bands would load in around
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the back
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there. I saw the vandals here.
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Suicide Machines, Buck09. Saw Earth
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Crisis in
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here. Saw Unwritten
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Law and a little band called
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Blink182. It was the Chesire Cat Tour.
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They played all songs off this album. In
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fact, I put a couple of these songs on
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my Instagram reel. My Instagram is Adam
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the Woo ATW. If you want to see some of
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the songs that they were singing off of
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this album in
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1996 inside this venue, just check out
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my Instagram, Adam Woo atw over on my
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Instagram. The stage was right over
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there where those windows are. Held a
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few hundred
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people. Really quite a time. I saw a
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multitude of bands here. Half of them
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I'm probably even forgetting who they
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were. The front entrance was over here.
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There's basically a pool hall with a
15:54
little stage over there in the distance.
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I have a photo somewhere. Maybe when I
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get home, I can try to find that photo.
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Warren Fitzgerald of the Vandals
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standing over there. He had a knife out.
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He like put it up to my head and the
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guitar player of Strung Out. Strung Out
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was also on that show. Took the
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photo. There was a grand
16:14
total 25 people at the show. That's it
16:18
for the Vandals. Also saw Bouncing Souls
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in here. I saw the Souls and one of your
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favorite bands, the Swinging Utters,
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played the Souls show. Hell yeah. Right.
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There was no one here. In fact, Greg
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from the Souls said, "Do do do do do do
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do do do do do do do do do do do do do
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do do do do do do do do do do do
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promoters in Orlando know how to fly
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her." He said that on stage. The answer
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is no. Got to find that photo when I get
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home. It's right
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here. Warren, I think Escalante from the
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Vandals was right in there again. And
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it's now this door was not here. So that
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door there was not there. The front door
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is around the side. In fact, I think it
16:56
might even be the same set of front
16:57
doors. Stage was right here. Loadin door
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was around this
17:03
side where the doctor
17:10
parks. This was the loadin
17:10
door. And this is the album that they
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played the song. They didn't even play
17:13
anything off of Dude Ranch. I think they
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played one song off Dude Ranch that they
17:17
were testing out. It would have been
17:19
early
17:20
96. So, I bought this album. I should
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probably open this up and take a look at
17:24
it. But, but yeah. And Unwritten Law,
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another San Diego band, was on tour. I
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saw Unwritten Law
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and Blink together probably 20 times in
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my life. This is one of one of the
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spots. It's the only one I have any
17:40
video evidence
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of. Finding Destruction by Definition,
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the album, Scott Punk band. Scott
17:48
Cororban was not able to find that. I
17:51
wanted to get was able to find
17:53
this Suicide Machines. I think most of
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Remember when they played they played
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mostly the stuff off of Green World
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which came out before that and my buddy
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Carlos. So that show the Vandal show
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that's when all those other bands
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played. There was like I said 20 people.
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I remember my friend Carlos was the only
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one upstate up front singing the
18:15
destruction by definition songs and
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green world songs and I remember
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thinking who is this band and then I
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went and bought the album and loved that
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band ever
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since we played that show
18:29
in God somewhere in like New York or
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Boston or something somewhere up north
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but uh it was like the pajama punks the
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pajama punks I don't remember that I
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want to say these are the original doors
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from the venue. Look at these doors. I
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seem to recall walking through those. I
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saw Earth Crisis in here, too. What an
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intense, insane, fun
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show. I really thought I was going to be
18:54
out of
18:55
place. And I really wasn't. It was a It
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was a good time.
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So, the Blink Show during the urinate
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song, I don't want to urinate on myself.
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They had Scott Russo come up from
19:09
Unwritten Law to help sing along. I
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actually put it up on my Instagram on
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the reels. And I staged over backwards
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off the stage. Not even a massive stage
19:18
jump. I just kind of like planted my
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feet and hopped back off the little
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twoft stage. Security kicked me out,
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dragged me out this door, and that was
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it. I only got to see about I don't know
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3/4 of the set. Luckily, I saw most of
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the show, but yeah, memories 96. Yep.
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Original doors from the Fairbanks
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in. That's
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cool. Little piece of music history
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here. Pre-Travis Barker history. It was
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when Scott Rayor was the
19:48
drummer. Rayor was on the first two
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albums, Dude Ranch and Chesire. They had
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another one too, right? It was like
19:55
another one that was basically Chesire,
19:56
but it was called something else. if
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it's colored or not. I just opened it
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up. All
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right. It feels
20:04
heavy. Oh, here we go. Oh, it's just
20:06
right. Not colored. Yeah, it's 180 g
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then. What is 180 g? So, you're the
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vinyl expert. It's heavy. It's just
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heavier.
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Heavier. It sounds better. Okay. Let's
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see what's on on the other side of the
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back of that. So, there's Rayor. There's
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I always wonder who this is. Is that
20:33
Hoppus? Is that Mark? I can never tell.
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I mean, I'm sure somebody knows. Looks
20:38
like more
20:45
compass. This is my favorite Blink album
20:45
just because I grew up on it. I mean, I
20:47
love all the Blink stuff, but this one's
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like by far my favorite.
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It's just a lot of songs with like Tom
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doing like intros to songs. Just like
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telling a weird story before the song
20:58
kicks in, you know? Oh, yeah. Based to
21:00
those little guitar parts. Classic.
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Yeah. All right, let's move on. Forgot
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to mention I was at 7-Eleven earlier
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before I even started the intro and
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everything and I got some Pump Bunny
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coffee for the K Cup, which is basically
21:18
Oakland coffee that D used to run. And I
21:21
think they just knew they could probably
21:22
do better by just rebranding it and
21:24
calling it, you know, Green Day Punk
21:26
Bunny coffee. And they're probably
21:27
selling 100 to one what they did when it
21:29
was basically the same coffee with
21:31
Oakland coffee. That's my opinion
21:32
anyway. Late 90s started getting really
21:35
into the hardcore scene. Bands like
21:38
Culture and Morning
21:40
Again, things like that. One of the guys
21:42
from Newf Found Glory was in a hardcore
21:43
band for a while, but I believe right
21:45
here next to Fairbanks in there used to
21:48
be like a warehouse. So, in fact, it
21:49
might have been over there, but I cannot
21:51
remember the name of it. They used to be
21:53
like hardcore shows right over in there.
21:56
So, you got this little side
21:58
road right next to where the FBI was.
22:01
People would park where the FBI was and
22:04
go to
22:05
the go to the shows in the little
22:08
warehouse over there. All right.
22:10
Commuted and ventured back over kind of
22:12
where we were at the the mall, the dead
22:14
mall. This is a place called Club
22:17
Nowhere, which was a legendary teeny
22:20
tiny
22:22
venue. Bennett Road. This might be
22:24
Bennett Road. Don't hold me to that. But
22:27
right off of Colonial Drive, about a
22:29
block off of Colonial, pretty close to
22:31
the mall to the FT Square
22:35
Mall. This place, if you look up GG
22:38
Allen Orlando, he played a couple shows
22:40
here. One of them he's infamous for over
22:42
by the where the Orlando Magic play. He
22:45
played at a bar and he he threw poop at
22:47
people. This one, however, is more
22:50
documented with Gigi playing
22:52
here inside. There's some some really
22:55
popular photos on online of Gigi playing
22:57
inside here. Was a there was no stage.
22:59
They always played on the floor. I saw
23:01
one of my favorite bands here, Clutch,
23:03
when they were doing the transitional
23:04
trans transnational motor league, I
23:07
think the name of the album is. I can't
23:10
remember the name of that first album,
23:11
but so good. You ever heard of that
23:13
album? Oh yeah, it's great. That was
23:16
kind That was when they were more of a
23:17
hardcore band than a heavy southern rock
23:20
band. That is one of the bands I feel
23:22
like gets better with time. But I do
23:24
like that first album a lot, too. And I
23:26
saw them in here on the playing on the
23:28
floor. But the reason Oh, also Green Day
23:32
played here, the tour before the one at
23:35
the station. I did not go to that show,
23:37
but that was late 93. They played in
23:40
here. Again, there's plenty of photos
23:42
you can find online of Billy and the
23:44
rest of the the band playing right
23:46
inside. This was the door you would go
23:48
in. You'd pay the guy at the front door
23:50
a couple
23:52
bucks and you would go watch a band. And
23:55
one
23:56
band I really fell in love with seeing
23:59
them for the first time here was this
24:01
band playing songs off this album, Don't
24:04
Turn Away. This has been remastered.
24:06
Originally, it was on it was like a
24:07
reddish maroon color and I bought it on
24:10
cassette tape. I had never heard the
24:12
band. This is before the internet. So,
24:14
you couldn't just easily search what a
24:16
band sounded like. You had to go to the
24:18
shows or go to record stores to find out
24:21
what they sounded like. When I first saw
24:24
face to face on Fat Records, Fat Mike
24:26
from No Effects's record label, I took a
24:28
chance at that, you know, Fat Mike from
24:30
No Effects is putting his name out there
24:32
to sign a band. They must be pretty
24:34
good. and they did not disappoint. Tried
24:37
finding a flyer or some information
24:39
about the date on that show and the only
24:41
thing that really shows up you type in
24:42
Club Nowhere punk concert or concert is
24:45
Green Day. That's kind of the most
24:46
popular search online. But it appears as
24:49
if whatever was in here, it was like a
24:52
restaurant last time I was here a couple
24:53
years ago and it's now closed. So, it's
24:55
empty again. Remember it like it was
24:57
yesterday. It was mid '9s. I don't know
24:59
which year it was. If it was 95, 96,
25:01
probably 96. Let's see what what what
25:03
year did this album come out? 95. So it
25:05
would have been Yeah, it would have been
25:08
95. So
25:11
1995. I arrived here. I got here really
25:14
early. The doors had just opened.
25:16
Actually, I think I waited for the doors
25:17
to
25:19
open. Doors probably opened at 7:00.
25:21
Show probably started at 9:00. I was
25:23
standing there, doors open. I went and
25:24
paid the guy at the front five bucks or
25:27
10 bucks or whatever it was. Probably
25:28
seven bucks. Went into Face to Face's
25:31
merch table. had never heard them, but I
25:34
knew they were on Fat Records, and I
25:35
like the bands on Fat Records at the
25:36
time. Bought the cassette, went back out
25:39
to my car, which I parked in the street
25:42
over
25:43
here. I had my car parked right
25:47
here, and I sat turn the car on and
25:51
listened to the cassette tape about
25:52
three times over and over and over for
25:54
two hours before the show started. So
25:57
when the band played, I kind of knew the
25:59
songs already or at least, you know,
26:03
knew the formation of the songs. And as
26:05
soon as they as soon as the first song
26:07
started, which is You've done nothing.
26:08
It starts off with the 1 2 1 2 3 4. As
26:12
soon as it kicked in, I go, I'm going to
26:14
I'm going to love this band. And I did.
26:16
Not colored vinyl. Is this one of those
26:17
ones you said was like heavier? No. You
26:20
got you or is that standard? Yeah, the
26:22
standard move. This is standard. You can
26:24
just tell it by looking at it. recently
26:25
saw face to face a couple years ago at
26:27
Punk Rock Bowling in
26:28
Vegas. And like myself, they have gotten
26:33
older. They uh they're not the Spring
26:36
Chickens they were back when I saw them
26:38
here in '95. But you know what?
26:45
The album didn't come out so 95, so they
26:45
must have wrote them in '92. And then
26:47
Matt Riddle, he's the bass player that
26:49
went on to No Use for a Name. Oh, yeah.
26:52
Yeah. Right. listening. You went on to
26:54
another Fat Records band after this or
26:57
after Big Choice. Big Choice is the one
26:59
that came after this. And I saw Face to
27:01
Face
27:02
open for some other band at the Edge,
27:05
which I want to go by The Edge also. I
27:07
saw Face to Face of the Edge also. The
27:08
Big Choice Tour. Great album. Great
27:15
album. All right, I'm peeking in the
27:16
window. You can see it's just basically
27:17
one little room. Yeah, I just picture
27:20
Green Day down there. Trevor from Face
27:21
to Face playing. Clutch playing in
27:23
there. GG Allen. You guys and uh So you
27:28
did have punk shows over there too.
27:29
Bigger bands would play there across the
27:32
street there. What was the name of that
27:34
place then? The Roxy. The Roxy.
27:37
Something different. Yeah. So basically
27:39
Club Nowhere went from
27:41
here to there. Just that little corner
27:44
piece door. That was other businesses.
27:46
Just this little section right here. All
27:47
right. I tried peeking in those other
27:49
windows. They have them kind of tarped
27:50
up or they have something on them where
27:53
you can't really see in. So, this is the
27:55
better way to see in from the front
28:00
door. Yeah, I would have walked in right
28:00
in this door. The door guy was right
28:03
over here to the left charging
28:04
admission. Walk in a few more feet. Over
28:07
there to the left also was the face to
28:08
face merch table. Bought the
28:12
cassette. Well, it must it probably was
28:14
a CD. He was a CD cuz it would have been
28:17
after I started getting into the CDs in
28:19
the mid
28:20
'90s. I think I first started buying CDs
28:23
in like
28:25
94ish, 93,
28:29
94ish, went back out to my car and
28:31
listened to it, waited for the show to
28:33
start. I don't even remember who opened
28:35
the show to be honest. For a while there
28:37
was a record store over in
28:39
here, not in Club Nowhere, but over off
28:42
to the side. There was a couple kind of
28:45
mom and pop style punk rock record
28:47
stores. There was DIY Records and that
28:49
started when that started. There was a
28:52
another
28:54
couple that had one. It was either in
28:57
here or on the other side of the other
28:59
side of the building and they kind of
29:01
popped around Orlando in different
29:03
places, but for a short while they had
29:05
their record store either in here or on
29:07
that other side. I was like, "Oh, that's
29:09
pretty cool. You got it in the back side
29:11
of Club Nowhere." I cannot remember what
29:13
the name of that cup the record store
29:15
was though would have been the loadin
29:17
door right here which means all the
29:19
bands would have pulled their van up
29:20
right
29:27
here obviously Face to Face Green Day
29:27
Clutch numerous
29:29
others just picture a young GG Allen
29:32
right here helping helping the band load
29:34
in their
29:35
cabinets of course he
29:38
did I'm standing here I I think I
29:40
remember who opened I think it was
29:42
Shyster
29:42
Shyer used to play every punk show they
29:46
opened up and I'm pretty sure they
29:47
played they played there. Probably
29:50
honestly in my opinion one of the best
29:51
Orlando punk bands there ever was.
29:58
Shyster they played a reunion recently
29:58
but I was out of town. I would have
29:59
loved to have gone that. I loved all
30:01
their
30:03
songs. Look at the sun setting over
30:05
there. All right, we got one more spot
30:06
to go to. It's the doozy. It's the big
30:09
one. The sunset's looking pretty
30:10
awesome. Heading closer to downtown from
30:12
where we are right now. Going to the
30:15
former
30:16
edge, a place where I saw offspring
30:18
three times in one
30:37
year. All right, have made it over to
30:37
the former edge. The last thing this
30:40
place was before it closed was Ace Cafe.
30:44
They used this parking area for downtown
30:46
parking. You see people are doing little
30:47
burnouts and spin-offs in here. 1995 the
30:51
very first Warp Tour
30:53
ever in the Central Florida area.
30:55
Orlando took place right here where this
30:57
parking lot is. Bands played inside.
31:00
Another band played outside over at the
31:03
edge shed which was
31:05
over in that little illuminated area
31:08
which I'm going to walk over to. I saw
31:10
the offspring on this property three
31:12
times. Late 93 they opened up for
31:15
Pennywise at the
31:16
Edshed and then in
31:19
springish of
31:21
94. Well, when I saw them in '93, this
31:25
was the album.
31:31
Ignition. Probably still my favorite
31:31
Offspring album. Very raw, very good.
31:34
And then a few months later, this came
31:37
out early, I'm saying spring, but early
31:40
'94. This took the world by storm.
31:43
However, the first tour, they really had
31:46
not blown up to what they were later in
31:48
'94. So, I saw them twice here. The
31:51
later 94
31:52
show, there was a stage set up right
31:55
over there. There's a Lynx bus station
31:56
now, but that used to be the edge
31:57
parking lot and the Osprey had a huge
32:00
stage right here and they all play. I
32:02
remember during self-esteem, I was right
32:05
up at the front of the stage. Everyone
32:07
was jumping like this and I turned
32:09
around and looked back and there were
32:12
people all the way to that building and
32:14
everyone was jumping. The entire crowd
32:17
of like, you know, between 5 and 10,000
32:19
probably. And I thought, wow, I used to
32:22
see them, you know, 6 months ago in a
32:25
little shed that was over there. They've
32:27
come a long way in 6 months. Saw a lot
32:30
of other bands here, too. Stone Tipper
32:31
Pilot Sound Garden. Saw Pantara here
32:33
with Type
32:34
Negative. Showed this before, but it's
32:37
been a while. I'm going to see now that
32:38
this is closed how close we can get to
32:40
the Ace Cafe. Last time I was here a
32:43
while back, I searched old satellite
32:46
views basically right
32:49
where that illuminated lit up guess that
32:52
would be like
32:53
a tennis court or basketball court
32:57
was was where I saw Offspring late in
32:59
'93. I saw so many bands here. First
33:02
concert I ever went to mid93 was Naughty
33:06
by Nature right there. Shaquille O'Neal
33:08
was there. I saw Shack in the Pit right
33:10
there.
33:16
He's a DJ now.
33:16
And then I love Penny Wise and I loved
33:20
Ignition. At some point I'll buy some
33:22
Penny Wise albums and talk about other
33:24
places that I had my first experiences
33:27
with Penny Wise that were not here in
33:28
Orlando. I saw them even before
33:30
that. Let me see the uh see the ignition
33:34
album. Is it colored? Oh, look at that.
33:37
That's beautiful. Oh yeah.
33:40
What a great
33:48
album. Offspring
33:48
Ignition. Dexter and Company. Dexter and
33:51
Noodles. Dexter is not listed as a
33:53
guitar player out here. Oh, well, when I
33:55
saw them on both tours on the Ignition
33:59
Tour in late ' 93 and then the first
34:02
time they did Smash, he did not play
34:04
guitar. He was just the front man. He
34:06
had his dreadlocks. He had the dreads. I
34:08
forgot about the dreads.
34:11
That's right. Right over here.
34:14
So, the early 94 smash tour before they
34:18
blew up. Obviously, this was the amount
34:20
of people that you could cram in here.
34:21
So, there was a shed that went I mean,
34:23
it might have been over a little bit,
34:24
but I'm just using this as a template.
34:26
It might have been shifted over a few
34:27
feet, but just picture a metal shed and
34:30
the stage was over there. The lineup,
34:33
you ready for this?
34:36
Shyster of course, Bouncing
34:39
Souls, Guttermouth, and
34:43
Offspring
34:45
94. Woo! That was the first time I saw
34:49
Guttermouth, and I thought, "This is the
34:51
greatest live band I've ever seen." Fast
34:53
forward many years, I joined the
34:56
band. Here was where the stage was.
34:58
Stage would have been right about here.
35:01
It was a wooden. The inside was wooden
35:04
and there was like metal around the
35:05
side. People were climbing the rafters,
35:08
leaping out. I remember Mark from
35:09
Guttermouth got everyone on
35:11
stage. Well, you know how you probably
35:13
fit what, 300 people in here? 400 people
35:15
maybe. Maybe that he probably got 50 to
35:19
100 of the people up on stage right
35:21
about here. And after they all got on
35:23
stage, they played Marco Polo, which is
35:25
the shortest Guttermouth song. And he
35:27
said, "You have to the end of this 30
35:28
secondond song to get off the stage."
35:30
So, everyone dog piled off right
35:35
there. Don't know how many injuries
35:37
happened, but I just remember thinking,
35:38
"Wow, what is this
35:41
band?" And then obviously the Souls and
35:44
Shyister. Amazing. That would have been
35:46
maniacal laughter era. Bouncing Souls.
35:49
Not a colored
35:55
vinyl. Yeah, I love this album. I mean,
35:55
I like all the Offspring albums, but
35:57
first two are my favorites.
36:04
I used to have this hat. I'm going to
36:04
call it like a Gilligan's hat, but it
36:05
was kind of like a Gilligan's hat, but
36:07
bigger. It's like a big brimmed kind of
36:09
I have a photo of it on my fridge. It's
36:11
actually on my fridge. My friend Jason
36:13
and I, we go to a lot of the lot of the
36:15
shows together. And I wore that hat for
36:17
probably a year.
36:20
Well, no, probably three or four months
36:23
non-stop every day listening to the
36:26
album. Yes. It was only three or four
36:28
months when they played in the shed.
36:30
They come out, they opened up with with
36:33
Bad
36:35
Habit. The whole place started getting
36:37
kind of wild. I jumped on stage, grabbed
36:41
the microphone. Me and Dexter were
36:43
singing the hey man, you know, I'm
36:44
really okay part. And then he grabbed
36:47
the hat off my off my head, put it on
36:49
his head, and I was like, "Oh, cool.
36:51
He's going to give me the hat back. I
36:52
got a little souvenir." Launched it in
36:54
the crowd. Song kicks in.
36:57
Everyone going nuts. I stage dove off
37:00
back. What a time. Did you ever get the
37:03
hat back? Never got the the ghost of the
37:05
hat is right here. And you know, back in
37:11
94, there really wasn't a whole heck of
37:13
a lot of traffic in Orlando. There
37:16
certainly was no traffic jams. You
37:18
weren't stuck in traffic. And I always
37:21
thought, what the heck is this bad habit
37:23
song that Dexter is singing about? He's
37:25
going to reach in his glove box, open
37:27
his glove box, reach inside and wreck
37:30
this effer's
37:31
ride. And I never understood why he was
37:35
so stressed until I moved to California
37:37
and I realized they're a SoCal band. Now
37:41
I get it. And now the traffic here is
37:44
almost as bad as there. The shed shows
37:46
worked is over here the entrance to the
37:48
shed. They'd have the ticket taker right
37:50
here. Yeah. And they would take your
37:52
ticket and then you would walk in. They
37:54
used to have a thing that was very
37:55
popular in Orlando called the Pumpkin
37:58
Scarfest. And there was a great turnout.
38:00
This place would be packed for local
38:01
punk and sca
38:08
bands. It's hard to believe that's been
38:08
94. Same as Green Day. That was the year
38:10
punk broke. They call it mainstream
38:12
punk. Everyone always gives me crap like
38:15
you don't know punk. But it's the year
38:17
that, you know, the this type of, you
38:20
know, poppy punk kind of broke. became
38:22
on the mainstream, if you
38:24
will. Nirvana in ' 91 to 93ish, and then
38:29
Green Day, Offspring, Rancid, Out Come
38:32
the Wolves, etc. Pick and choose what
38:35
albums I'd buy to bring out here and
38:36
talk about. Thought about buying Don't
38:38
Know How to Party by the Boston cuz I
38:39
saw them in here on that tour opening up
38:42
for the Butthole Surfers. They were the
38:44
greatest.
38:46
Well, Guttermouth was another one, but
38:49
the Boston stones were insane during
38:52
that tour. They don't know how to party
38:54
ears. Absolutely
38:56
amazing. This is also where Courtney
38:59
Love got the lawsuit when she jumped off
39:02
the stage and slapped the guy. It
39:04
happened right in here. It was like a
39:06
very popular newsworthy event from Hole.
39:10
Saw Bad Religion here with Unwritten
39:12
Law. Dance hall crashers. Saw rancid in
39:16
with Blounce or Blunt from
39:24
Jacksonville. Saw Tulle in here. The
39:24
undertoe tour. Imagine Tulle playing in
39:26
a room this small.
39:28
Lord, also face to face. That
39:31
was I don't know 8 months after I saw
39:34
them at Club Nowhere. They played the
39:36
first Warp Tour right in
39:44
there. Hagfish.
39:44
remember Hagfish? Oh, yeah. They opened
39:46
up for Bad Brains. I saw Bad Brains in
39:54
here. Again, there's a there's a bunch
39:54
of albums I could have bought, but I
39:55
kind of those are the ones I got today
39:57
were my first introduction to those
39:59
bands, getting those things on tape and
40:01
CD. So, now that I'm collecting vinyl, I
40:03
figure I should go show the first my
40:05
first memories of those bands, seeing
40:06
those bands live, and then having the
40:09
vinyl to match up with it. to the
40:11
entrance to the
40:12
edge. You know, I take that back. I
40:15
showed up after Unwritten Law played
40:18
early opening for Bad Religion and I
40:20
missed them and I remember being so mad
40:22
and Russo, the singer of Unwritten Law,
40:24
was right there and I was just
40:26
expressing my disappointment that they
40:28
played as soon as the doors open and I
40:30
missed them probably like 10 or 15
40:32
minutes after they play. I mean, see
40:33
Unwritten Law 100 times, but I was like
40:35
excited to see them. That was on the Oz
40:38
Factor tour. Blue Room was the first UL
40:41
and then Oz
40:47
Factor and another Blink tie-in. So I
40:48
saw Dance Hall Crashers here, Unwritten
40:49
Law. All bands that are mentioned in a
40:52
Blink 182 song. Two song UL and DHC.
40:56
Unwritten law and dance hall crashers.
40:58
The song Josie. Yeah. It's very unusual
41:01
that the lights are all still on inside.
41:04
This place has been closed for a long
41:05
time.
41:08
Oh, fun
41:10
fact. Another album I was going to buy
41:12
was No Effects because I'm a big Nox
41:16
guy. Talking about Fat Records and Mike
41:19
starting Fat Records and signing Face to
41:21
Face and other bands, you know, back in
41:24
day. But I didn't want to buy the No
41:26
Effects Punk and Dropbook here because
41:27
the tour they played here, which was
41:30
with I think Snuff and the Souls. Seen
41:33
the I've seen the Souls a lot. A lot of
41:35
times. Yeah.
41:38
But that was right when Heavy Petting
41:39
Zoo came out. So I have a better no
41:42
effects memory and I want to buy that
41:44
album when I go to Fort Lauderdale
41:45
because I have quite the no effects Fort
41:48
Lauderdale story. It's pretty
41:50
mind-blowing. But who knows what I'll
41:52
talk about that. But I want to get that
41:53
album, Heavy Petting Zoo album. But that
41:56
was the same tour as this. They played
41:57
here and then they went down to Fort
41:59
Lauderdale and then they went over to
42:01
St. Pete. So I don't know. Maybe I could
42:03
talk about it in St. Pete or Fort
42:04
Lauderdale. I went to all the shows. I
42:05
went to three or four shows on that tour
42:08
and I still have my backstage pass from
42:10
No Effects which instead of saying all
42:14
access. It has a farmer and a sheep
42:17
doing things and it says all
42:21
asses. No effects memory in here. Okay,
42:23
I'll talk about no effects a little bit.
42:25
Three or four songs in their set.
42:27
There's a second level balcony. I went
42:29
to the balcony level. It's like a
42:31
horseshoe kind of area that you kind of
42:33
lean over and you're looking down into
42:34
the pit area. I hoisted myself over it,
42:38
walked out onto the beams, and Mike the
42:41
singer looked at me and he's like, "Look
42:42
at this
42:43
idiot." And everyone in the entire This
42:47
place probably held what, 500 people,
42:49
maybe more. All staring at me. And I
42:52
jumped down. Luckily, there was enough
42:53
people to catch me. And I jumped off the
42:55
rafter. And I think I might have got
42:58
kicked out at that one too, just like I
42:59
did at the Blinkman. You know, that
43:00
sounds about right. And I may or may
43:02
not, as I was getting dragged out by
43:03
security, been yelling over here,
43:06
screaming something to the effect of,
43:09
"I'm just having fun. I'm just trying to
43:11
have fun." That was a wild one back in
43:13
those
43:14
days. The music like flowing through my
43:18
bones. If I jumped off of a second floor
43:20
rafter, you wouldn't be talking to me
43:21
tomorrow. If I got in a pit right now,
43:24
if I was slam dancing, the knee would
43:26
buckle. The shins would have some
43:28
splints in them.
43:35
Yeah. First warp warp tour's coming
43:35
back.
43:40
I probably won't go. Too old. I don't
43:40
want to do an all day festival. What am
43:43
I 27? Yeah. The key thing I wanted to
43:46
talk about was Offspring and Green Day.
43:48
Well, Offspring, Green Day, Blink, and
43:51
Cavalcade of the other ones that I kind
43:52
of peppered in. I might do around two of
43:54
these, buying, you know, who knows,
43:56
maybe in six months to a year, I'll
43:57
maybe buy more vinyl and go to some
43:58
other places. I have a lot of lot of
44:00
memories of different areas and albums
44:04
and things like that. What I really want
44:06
to do was I kind of did in London, what
44:07
I did with the Clash and did with David
44:09
Bowie, I did with Beatles, is buy the
44:11
buy the albums in the closest record
44:13
store to where the album covers were
44:15
taken. Granted, I do not know where this
44:17
could have been. Swampfest right there.
44:20
I could recreate that at
44:21
Swampfest. Obviously, this I can't go
44:24
match up that location where this album
44:26
cover was taken, but Oh, so also I
44:29
mentioned Green Day. Saw Green Day at
44:31
the station in Fern Park early was
44:34
springish
44:35
March of
44:37
94. in late summer, early fall. I don't
44:42
can't remember what month it was, but
44:43
about 6 months later, Green Day, also
44:45
played right here on the stage that was
44:48
right there. This completely sold out
44:51
section, was also home to to Green Day.
44:55
There was a band called Wooden Horse
44:57
that opened up. Do not know who they
44:59
were, and to this day, never heard of
45:01
them afterwards. All right, so here is
45:03
the You ready for this Offspring show?
45:07
It was March 10th of two of
45:11
1995. So I saw them late 93 mid 94. No
45:15
early Okay, I stand corrected. The show
45:18
that was in the shed was early
45:28
94. The show that was over
45:28
here. Okay, wait a second. Early 94 was
45:32
Pennywise opening for Pennywise right
45:34
over there.
45:41
Late 94 was with Guttermouth, Bouncing
45:41
Souls, and Shyer. Early spring of 95 was
45:46
the concert field. They call this the
45:47
Edge concert field. And that was the
45:49
lineup. Offspring, Quicksand, no use for
45:54
a name. March 10th,
46:02
1995. I think that was when Quicksand
46:02
put their second album out. I think it's
46:04
when the second album dropped.
46:07
And no use for name, the singer passed
46:09
away. RIP. Yeah. Now, back when STP and
46:13
Sound Garden stayed here, I4 was just
46:16
kind of one level. Now it's multi-level.
46:18
It used to be a burm right there. So,
46:19
people that would not pay to get in
46:21
would just walk up on the hill and watch
46:23
the stage that was set up right here.
46:25
There's a photo from the show early '95
46:29
of Noodles, who's the guitar player of
46:32
Offspring, and Dexter. And this is the
46:34
exact spot. There's Noodles doing his
46:36
high kick jump. And there's Dexter still
46:39
rocking the 94 dreads into 95. And they
46:42
were right here in this exact spot
46:45
looking off at the 5 to 10,000 people
46:47
filling up the section. And the lineup
46:49
for the shows inside the edge would go
46:52
down Livingston. And people would wait
46:54
in line along this sidewalk. And there
46:57
was a tree. They replaced these trees
46:58
with palm trees, but they used to be
47:00
like other types of trees with branches.
47:02
And I remember people climbing up in the
47:04
trees, but me and Jason brought a sheet,
47:07
a big sheet, stuffed it. I stuffed it in
47:09
my pants. We got through security. It
47:12
was a little more lax then when it came
47:13
to security. We got right up here.
47:15
Pretty sure it was offspring. But we
47:17
were right here. They started playing
47:19
Lance Rancid. Let's go over the
47:22
speakers. We started a circle pit before
47:24
the bands even played. We took the sheet
47:26
out and then we got six or seven other
47:28
people to grab a part of the sheet. We
47:31
all held a corner of the sheet, told
47:34
someone to jump in, and we would launch
47:37
them 20, 30 feet up in the air. They
47:40
didn't even stop us. We just did that
47:41
for like a half hour. Oh, you got to
47:43
miss the '9s, huh? Most of the people
47:45
that were being launched were a lot
47:47
thinner than like I was. I was a lot
47:49
thinner. That makes sense. Yeah. Right
47:51
here, right where you're standing, we
47:53
were launching
47:54
someone and they agreed to it. They
47:56
hopped in it. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Fun
47:59
facts. All right, a little walk down
48:01
memory lane. Thanks for watching. See
48:03
you in the next
48:04
video. Yeah, excited. The first warp
48:07
tour and I got some record. It was
48:09
mostly just me having an excuse to go
48:11
buying some vinyl today. So, thanks for
48:13
watching. I really appreciate you tuning
48:16
in. As always, I'll see you in the next
48:18
video. The vlog is over. Bonus footage.
48:21
I'm back home now. the photo with the
48:23
vandals at Fairbanks and I don't know if
48:25
I should put that in a video or
48:28
not just because some of the stuff
48:30
they're holding. I don't know if YouTube
48:31
would be okay with having that posted,
48:34
but I will put it over on my Instagram
48:36
through an Instagram story. So, just go
48:38
over on Instagram. I'll post it on
48:40
there. Adam the WooATW. It'll be up for
48:42
like 24 hours. So, it was a good day.
48:45
Okay. See you later.