TDW 1817 - The End Of Patreon - TheDailyWoo Archive

0:02 Welcome everyone,

0:02 Adam the Woo here. It's my second

0:05 channel, daily vlog channel. It's the

0:07 daily woo. I have a subject matter that

0:09 has been weighing heavily on me for

0:12 quite some time and I have not mentioned

0:14 it in all of 2017 and most of the end

0:19 squirrel. Hello. Hi. Patreon. What

0:23 Patreon is is is basically a

0:27 contributing mechanism for those who

0:30 want to support creators. It's always

0:32 been a hardpressed issue for me to ever

0:35 accept anything from anyone. That being

0:40 said, before I left California, the last

0:43 time when I was down in Orange County, a

0:45 couple months before I moved away, I

0:47 started hitting the road

0:49 again, it was with a heavy heart that I

0:51 did a vlog saying that I was going to

0:54 start a Patreon. In fact, couple weeks

0:57 before that particular vlog, I mentioned

1:00 how I was not really a fan. I did not

1:03 think it was a good

1:04 idea to accept anything from anyone

1:08 because there might be that mystique

1:10 that certain people not everyone only a

1:12 very small percentage will think or

1:16 assume or maybe even

1:18 justifiably are

1:21 those think that like I said justifiably

1:25 because there might be a degree of truth

1:26 to it that you owe them something in

1:30 return for their contribution and I

1:31 think there is a very very valid point

1:34 to that. I bring this up because since I

1:37 moved back to California, a lot of

1:39 hatred has been stewing in my corner. A

1:43 lot of negativity has really come to

1:47 fruition. People holding the Patreon

1:50 over my head. Now, to play devil's

1:52 advocate, I will say Patreon is amazing.

1:56 Just because I moved back to

1:57 California a couple days ago does not

2:01 mean that I have not been on the road

2:02 for a very long time. I did get the RV

2:04 back in December, but I've been on the

2:07 road since October of 2011, save for the

2:11 house I was renting down in Orange

2:13 County. Long time. October

2:16 2011. August 2011 is when I quit my job,

2:20 moved into my van. Man, it's been a long

2:24 tiring journey thus

2:27 far. And as time escalated, as things

2:31 progress and me traveling, I was

2:34 recommended very heavily by not only

2:37 friends, acquaintances, but also

2:40 vicarious folks on the internet that

2:43 they wanted to help out. Give a dollar

2:45 or two. How can we get this money to you

2:48 to help you with your travels?

2:52 And then they brought up the idea of the

2:53 Patreon and I just didn't really did not

2:56 think it was a good idea. I'm kind of

2:59 the person that wants to do everything

3:00 on my own, build something from the

3:02 ground up. But I gave in. I gave into

3:05 it. And if you watch those older vlogs

3:09 from gosh 2015, I was very very

3:13 passionate about anyone who decided to

3:16 go that route to donate to only give a

3:20 dollar or two. I said just give $1. Just

3:23 give $1 at the absolute most. $5. That

3:27 was my limit. $5 a month. thinking that

3:30 if I if someone was to have some

3:33 backlash towards me that they really

3:35 couldn't hold over my head if someone

3:37 was giving $5. That's way less than a

3:39 cable bill or renting a movie, buying a

3:42 DVD or a Blu-ray. That was my mentality.

3:45 And as of today, right now, it may have

3:48 changed a little bit, give or take a

3:50 buck or two, but I am receiving about

3:54 $1,800

4:00 1,800 a month currently. It's actually

4:00 gone up month by month by month, a

4:03 little bit. Couple bucks here, a couple

4:05 bucks there, every single month. And

4:07 right now it is at the

4:09 crescendo, the $1,800 mark, which is

4:14 man, that's that's a heck of a lot of

4:15 money. That's a lot of

4:18 money. That is a full-time job that

4:21 people are donating. And I know that

4:23 number seems astronomical cuz to me it

4:26 does as well, but you have to take into

4:29 consideration, once again, playing

4:30 devil's advocate here, there are

4:34 530 535. Don't quote me on that, but

4:37 around 530 people who accumulate that

4:42 number. And I pulled out the calculator.

4:44 You can do this as well. It averages out

4:46 to be

4:48 $341, give or take a penny.

4:51 $341. So the $5 plateau that I was

4:55 mentioning, everyone adhered to that.

4:57 They stuck to they tried to honor my

5:00 wishes to a degree and stayed under the

5:03 $5 average.

5:06 $341 per person per month. If you boil

5:09 that down per day, let's say there's 30

5:11 days in a month. It's about 11 cents. 11

5:16 cents a day for those, not everyone. 535

5:21 people out of the 137,000 subscribers

5:24 here on the Daily Woo, give or take.

5:26 These are all approximate numbers.

5:29 535 consciously decided, pulled into

5:32 their wallet to give 11 cents every day.

5:37 And you do a little bit more math. Take

5:38 the calculator out. 11 cents a day.

5:40 These vlogs are about 10 to 15. But

5:42 let's say the vlogs are 11 minutes.

5:44 That's one penny for every minute of an

5:47 edited vlog going and traveling that

5:50 those who want to contribute can

5:52 contribute. If there was a gentleman

5:54 here on the sidewalk playing guitar and

5:57 you enjoyed the sounds that he was

5:59 singing and coming out of his

6:00 instrument, you would probably throw a

6:02 buck in. Once again, devil's advocate. I

6:06 understand both sides of the coin. Now,

6:09 in light of recent events, the

6:12 combination of everything that I have

6:14 told you by me moving to California,

6:17 even with the promises of still

6:19 continuing to travel once I get things

6:21 settled down, get the home base here set

6:23 up, bringing the RV back, there is a lot

6:27 of flack in my direction, a lot of hate.

6:29 And I am not talking about what some

6:31 people consider to be trolls. And when I

6:33 say trolls, I do not mean those with

6:36 opinions. A troll is someone who has a

6:39 formulated game plan to belittle

6:41 someone. Not necessarily constructive

6:44 criticism, but someone who creates 20,

6:47 30, 40 YouTube accounts. So there'll be

6:51 10 or 15 comments within an hour period.

6:53 They basically sign in, sign out, leave

6:56 the comment, leave the thumbs down. All

6:58 that really is kind of entertaining to

7:00 me. It doesn't really bother me so much

7:02 because they will always have a big

7:06 chunk of hatred and negativity and

7:09 jealousy inside and that you can you can

7:12 remove that from your head because you

7:14 see it so so so very often. The thing

7:17 that bothers me the most are those who

7:20 have been watching for years and

7:22 supporting not financially but

7:25 supporting through watching the videos

7:27 and leaving comments. And when someone

7:29 who has always been in your corner

7:31 starts to see negative comments and then

7:33 they think, you know what, that person

7:35 who's being negative kind of has a

7:36 point, Adam is an ebagger. So, what I'm

7:39 here to say is even though I have not

7:42 mentioned the Patreon word in a year,

7:45 I'm not even kidding. Go back through my

7:47 past videos over the last year. In fact,

7:50 since I got Large Marge, I don't think

7:52 I've uttered that word P A T R E O N

7:56 until today. In fact, those who are

7:59 always addressing me as someone who is a

8:02 scam artist, they have

8:04 promoted that word more than I ever had

8:08 or have ever in the history of

8:10 existence. The only reason I'm bringing

8:11 it up today is because I never want to

8:13 hear that word again. I am here to

8:16 announce I want you to stop giving me

8:20 money on Patreon. So many people have

8:23 been so helpful with donating a couple

8:26 dollars every month. And that really

8:28 goes a heck of a long way with putting

8:30 gas in my former van, putting gas in my

8:32 RV, flying from place to place to place.

8:35 And you know, all those weird,

8:37 unusual roadside attractions and

8:41 museums, all those types of places cost

8:43 four, five, six, seven, eight, sometimes

8:45 $15 depending on what it is to get in.

8:48 Sometimes I'd hit three or four of those

8:50 in a day. places I wouldn't normally go

8:53 to. Basically, what I would do is rack

8:55 up my credit card debt and then once a

8:58 month you would get a payout from that

8:59 word, the P, not the P word you're

9:01 thinking of, the other P word. I would

9:03 take that, pay the credit card debt

9:05 down. That being said, I do not want to

9:09 discourage anyone from ever starting a

9:12 Kickstarter, starting a

9:14 Patreon. It's going that's what's going

9:16 to happen though because it is so

9:18 overwhelming. YouTube is so huge now. It

9:21 is so popular. In fact, VidCon is coming

9:23 up this weekend. Thousands of YouTubers

9:26 and different panels. They teach you how

9:29 to do well at YouTube, little tips and

9:32 tricks and whatnot. And one of the major

9:34 things that will be actually happening

9:36 there is you can sit and learn. One of

9:39 the panels is all about Patreon and

9:44 Kickstarter, how to fund yourself

9:46 through your supporters. I do not want

9:49 anyone I'm teetering here. Look, I'm

9:51 teetering right here on this. I do not

9:52 want anyone thinking that they have some

9:55 sort of crutch against the word. This

9:57 ebagger word drives me

10:01 absolutely

10:02 insane. It's a tip jar. It's simply a

10:06 tip

10:07 jar. Someone does something, someone

10:09 wants to help you out. And take this

10:12 into consideration if you are one of the

10:14 many who think that YouTubers and

10:18 content creators are mooching off those

10:21 that watch them. It's not a paid

10:24 subscription. It's free content. It's

10:26 simply something that someone says,

10:28 "Here, just just take this." Do you ever

10:31 have a friend? Let's let's say you met

10:33 someone that you admired or someone you

10:36 revered and you only you never really

10:39 had a chance to meet them. All of a

10:40 sudden, across the parking lot, that's

10:41 him. That's the person that you have

10:45 wanted to meet for so long. They're

10:46 walking in there, you're behind them in

10:48 line, and you say, "Hey, let me buy you

10:51 a drink. Let me buy you a large fry."

10:54 And they go, "No, no, man. No, no, no,

10:57 no. I don't need that." Would you not

10:59 take offense to that? If you want to do

11:03 something, you would be you would be

11:06 hurt. You want to show your support and

11:09 that's that's what it is. And it's sad

11:12 that I have to put an end to this. It's

11:13 sad that I have to say

11:16 please no more. It I I can't do it. I

11:19 cannot I had a hard time with this from

11:21 the beginning. I'm having a hard time

11:22 with it now. I've been thinking about

11:25 this for a very long time. And just in

11:27 recent days since I've decided to get a

11:29 place

11:30 here, I can't do it anymore. Patreon

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