Worlds Largest Nativity & Flag House Of Winter Park - Orlando Jai Alai Is GONE/ The Station Memories
Orlando Adventures 2022
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welcome everyone
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Adam the woo here as the recording of
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this Monday
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November 28 2022
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I have found myself in Fern Park Florida
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at a location that I used to frequent
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many many times in the mid 90s
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now has been bulldozed a race from
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existence some would say
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I would say Doc Brown
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would say the station in Fern Park is
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where I saw Green Day for the first time
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in March I believe it was don't quote me
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on that saw them twice in 1994 once at
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the edge concert Field downtown Orlando
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that was after Longview was released on
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MTV and dookie
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just completely took over the airwaves
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but before that
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they had not released the music video
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yet in fact Billy Joe talked about that
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on the stage that was in this little
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venue
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right over here
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now what brings me up to this neck of
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the woods is because I heard the High
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Life Fronton which is basically an arena
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for High Lie it was like a gambling I
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think there's still a couple frontons
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that are still open
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that has since closed after Decades of
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being open
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and that kind of struck my interest and
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I thought to myself
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that is right next to where I saw Green
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Day so came up here gonna show this talk
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about some memories show the Fronton for
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highlight and then also altobot Springs
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is right next to Fern Park gonna show
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some stuff over there and just see where
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the the day leads
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join me
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it's very interesting visiting a place
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that you have memories of
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from the past that is just completely
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gone
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believe the back door was around here
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where the bands would load their stuff
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in
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gosh I probably saw 50 bands here
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probably
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frequent of this place at least 20 times
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you know three four five bands on each
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bill
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really was not big of a place you could
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see it was smaller than the grassy area
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so just figure it was right here in the
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middle
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probably the most notable would have
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been that Green Day show tilt opened up
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but I also saw a lot of other bands
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Agnostic Front with the Glow Skulls
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screaming cheetah Willies
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I saw Collective Soul fun fact I saw
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Collective Soul here Collective Soul
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pretty much got their start
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at an Orlando radio station I think
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Orlando rock station back in the 90s was
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the first station to start playing them
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before they went National so they'd
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they kind of had some ties to Orlando
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and they played on a stage the stage
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would have been kind of right about here
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give or take right about here front door
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was over there
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there's the highlight
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that Green Day you know so many times I
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stage Dove off this stage a lot of punk
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rock shows here as well and fun fact my
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buddy Jason who some refer to as king
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wuvian
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he went with me to that show
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and staged over here in fact he jumped
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up on stage
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it's a fun fun story about him he jumped
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up on stage which would have been right
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about here
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and the song was about to start
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thought the music was going to continue
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and he was going to Stage dive during
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the song and then Billy Joe looked at
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him
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and so what are you doing up here the
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song's not even happening so it was like
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an awkward thing that he staged up to no
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music it was like right now it's just I
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don't know it's just funny how memories
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come back to you it's also very peculiar
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when you know bands that are known as
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being a stadium Arena rock bands now
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huge bands or bands that you saw earlier
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in their career when there was really
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hardly anyways maybe a couple hundred
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people at the show there was no like
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there was no wall there there was no
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like Personnel behind there stopping you
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from getting up on stage you could just
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jump up on stage if you so choose it's
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got you know Green Day Blink 182 those
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bands I saw quite a few times before
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they went to kind of the next level and
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saw it a lot of places that were this
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small but just always interesting to
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think about seeing a band like that in a
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place like this that you know the band
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was just right in front of me they were
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pretty much on the same level as you
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were well just a little bit elevated so
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you get up on up on stage do a little
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stage dive which I don't even think
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people could stage dive anymore
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everything is so secure
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anymore but yeah it all happened
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right here now I'm gonna walk over to
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the old frond time which I'm very
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curious about seeing what has happened
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to that but before walking over there
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just going to show oh yeah you can see
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here the pavement here where the
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entrance was there was like an awning
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and you walked in this way
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then turned this direction
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and then the stage was right here so the
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wall was here and then the stage
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was right here
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and if memory serves me correct you'd be
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standing on the edge of the stage right
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here looking out this way and there
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would be a little dance floor like the
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bathrooms might have been over there and
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then over on this side was like a little
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bit of an elevated bar area that had
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some seats even though the bar was in
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the back it kind of continued and
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wrapped around
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that way but this was the stage
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and I don't know maybe 10 15 yards from
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where the grass sounds is where the back
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of the club ended there are a heck of a
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lot of Lynx buses
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right there like a little bus station I
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had the opportunity of going inside the
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High Life Rod top
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five or six seven years ago yeah give or
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take a year
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I went to a wrestling event inside there
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it was open for Wrestlemania weekend it
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was not part of WrestleMania but during
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WrestleMania there are always subsidiary
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projects and smaller offset wrestling
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that takes place and one of them
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happened in here and I got to see a
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wrestler who I have since learned to
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kind of appreciate some of the stuff he
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does his name is Darby Allen named after
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two punk rock guys
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Darby Crash and the germs and GiGi Allen
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of course
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GiGi Allen really kind of needs no
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introduction
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but yeah that restaurant's gone on to
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kind of other things but he was right in
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here doing a wrestling match oh
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I hear someone over there with a leaf
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blower
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so the road oh no it's a it's a hedge
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trimmer
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it's now a church
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Journey Church
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no longer any wrestling events or high
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lie I'll be no gambling going on in here
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either
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highlight always kind of confused me a
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very very speedy
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sport but never really took off too much
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there are some people who really liked
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highlight
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but it really didn't take off
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take as much as at least in this
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generation
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they've all kind of kind of faded away
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and there is there was a Fronton in the
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Panhandle
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of Florida that was closed off and
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sitting empty 10 years ago I got inside
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of it did a whole video one of the
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scariest closed places I had ever been
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in in my life there were birds in there
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it was dark couldn't see anything
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this one's in a lot better condition
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because this is still currently used see
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there's actually something happening in
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there right now
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The Journey Church
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no lot man this this changed over quick
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I tried getting a tried going inside and
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there were people in there but they said
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that they were closed right now so I
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don't know what they got going on but
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I was gonna see if I could kind of walk
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around the escalator that led up to the
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top floor still look the same but
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yeah wasn't allowed to look around
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I tried
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it is good this is being used however
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instead of just sitting empty for a
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business up close
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the old lamp post up there the old
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lights
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satellite dish old satellite dish over
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on the side
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so yeah better
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a building gets used than just set empty
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all right I'm gonna move on see what
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else I can find
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this is kind of neat this little
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entryway into the station you can still
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see where the two poles are there the
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two palm trees that lead in and then
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these cinder blocks around
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two poles
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little remnants of the station here
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and over there found an old photo as
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well I can show
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no dumping allowed
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here's a photo I was referring to
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so you kind of see how it has the little
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awning protrudes out from the rest of
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the building
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that's where you're still visible today
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where the awning kind of protruded out
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very unique retro looking
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station sign a little billboard above
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the building itself and you got that
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little sports car pulling up in front
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there but where the awning was still
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kind of matches up and where the
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building was this would have been that
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angle
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so where those cars were parked so
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sports car parked here
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and all the other cars here and that
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retro sign right there awning
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here
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just like that
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it's good that old photos exist
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you know for back in those days because
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without those
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just be in everyone's memory he just
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even just one photo sometimes at a place
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makes a huge difference just having one
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or two photos of something from back in
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the day makes a big difference with
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flying stuff up as I was walking back
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over here going over to my car
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I all came back to me now another time I
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was over here got here really early to
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see a band I didn't even know what who
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they were
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but they were called stick
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the album was Heavy bag they were all
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out here
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with all their road cases and whatnot
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we're gonna hung out with them for a few
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hours and then saw them play I don't
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know just seeing this little spot right
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kind of Jarred my memory on that
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I don't even know whatever happened to
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that band
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that was probably the only time I ever
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saw him or even heard of them
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I don't even know why that even like
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like flashed into my memory
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but I remember vividly now and something
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else just popped into my head
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something that Philly Captain shout out
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to the Philly captain could approve of I
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saw the Dead Milkmen
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Dead Milkmen from Philadelphia
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right in here I got to see them
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playing all the hits big lizard in my
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backyard also and Camaro was
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probably the most violent Slam Dancing
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Mosh Pit I've ever like seen there's
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only maybe like 200 people in 150 200
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people crammed in here but when they
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played that song
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my mind was blocked it was awesome
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possum Dixon also another band that
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probably no one's heard of they opened
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up this show did not even think about
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that until I was walking back over
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through here than I thought
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I can't not mention that show amazing
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all right moving oh there's an
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electrical box
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this powered
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the station in Fern Park
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right here look at this
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then again maybe it didn't power this
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possibility it wasn't powered
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there's a power out power thing there
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well maybe you did yeah this right here
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could have gone from here over to the
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station
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now of course anyone from this area that
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visited this venue is going to be
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enthralled the fact that I'm showing
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this everyone else is going to be like
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it's pretty neat to me all right
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got back in my car I found the album
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heavy bag by stick
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and I started listening to it and the
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first few riffs of the guitar reminded
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me a little bit of quicksand
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and the band quicksand and all of a
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sudden it came back to me also another
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show I went to here was quicksand
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opening ax seaweed two amazing Acts
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but I'm excited because the stick band
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is you know you can find stuff online so
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I started listening to that I haven't
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even got halfway through the first song
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and it just kind of reminded me just the
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guitar
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the Riff of quicksand I saw quicksand
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and seaweed here and a treasure Trove of
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bands that I saw inside here and more
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would probably pop in my head but yeah
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Good Times all right moving on made
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about a mile commute but into a
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different town different Community even
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though it's you know not too far from
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where I just was I'm technically now in
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Altamonte Springs
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right here at this property
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which it is said to have the world's
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largest nativity set
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anywhere in the world self-proclaimed
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but I'm noticing
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that they are really starting to tear a
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lot of the property out
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for example see some heavy machinery
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over there
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then there's also this deer
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laying down there this plastic deer that
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has fallen on its side
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not a real deer it's plastic that's
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fallen over
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but up here
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is that rather large Nativity side and
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it is ginormous
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this ties into the holidays and
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Christmas
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you got the wise men there
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with their frankincense and myrrh
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I mean this is probably a good 15 feet
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tall
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this wise man
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the angel may be a good
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17 to 20 feet tall
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got Joseph and Mary
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the baby Jesus
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and the Star of Bethlehem up top
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measuring 19 feet tall okay this set is
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two feet taller than the largest
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nativity set currently recorded in the
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world located in Mexico listed on the
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quote Guinness Book of World Records so
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this is the tallest
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largest nativity set in the world
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besting
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that of the Guinness Booker World
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Records believe it or not
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I have never seen antivity set this big
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before
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it's pretty awesome
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cross streets of Amanda Street and
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Jackson
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street right there
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these are kind of obscured by the trees
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but three of them there and a lion here
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and a fountain
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even big the foot
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he would just saying he does not ever
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recall seeing a nativity that big before
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and the next property over take a look
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at this it's kind of like
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and when you go to the Haunted Mansion
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at least in California they have they
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might have it here too
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I'm just gonna drive by
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this real estate see if the eyes of
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Jesus stay on me
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kind of do
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yeah kind of works
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neat and now over to another area
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another city Winter Park
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I've always heard
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this was only like maybe four or five
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miles away from where I just was I think
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it's a birdhouse up here in this tree
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I've always heard of the American flag
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house
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but I've never
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stopped off to see it but I figured
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since I was in this area
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I probably should take a look at this
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this house is painted like the American
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flag
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oh yeah no worries
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by accident just checking is this your
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house it's my friends oh okay it was his
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dad's okay he's in the military and they
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basically took away
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and he served 26 years like
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yeah so he painted the house like this
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yeah okay
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okay
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got
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here you go you got her okay so the guy
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that lived here has passed on but
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they've kept the house painted like an
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American flag
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someone just pulled up to talk to me
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says he's friends with the current owner
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but I guess the guy who originally
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painted the house
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passed away
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thank you
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it's kind of funny though in the old
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days the City of Winter Park used to
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like throw ballistic on them oh really
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upside down flag house at Winter Park
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it's the number one tourist destination
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the never and the scenic boat tour
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it's been like this for 30 or 40 years
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all right it's pretty funny oh thanks
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for the info yeah
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oh really
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yeah oh so we did all this too
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thanks for the info yeah he's trying to
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get him to uh put up a memorial
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for his dad
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and then he'll paint the house
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all right he said that it was okay to
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take some photos
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so I was just informed this has been
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painted like this since 1978.
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in this neighborhood since 78. it was
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four years after I was born
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how tall is the flagpole now it's 35
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feet so it used to be three feet three
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times that high yeah we had a 20 by 30
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foot flag on it
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wow we flew it upside down as a distress
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signal what you're doing is you're
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calling all Americans to your Aid that's
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the price is worth being flown right
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before they had radios and stuff they
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had uh they use a stress signal
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your boat was thinking to turn the flag
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upside down people come rescue
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and that's the way we were using it
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we've always been a respectful of it we
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never
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disrespectful
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of course the city that the county
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didn't like it and they uh they threw us
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all in jail at one time
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all right just had a nice conversation
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with the now owner of the Sun
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of the guy who used to be here named
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Grover Walker he said
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that I could just search
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that name and find all the info
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very interesting though he was saying
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this flagpole which is now 35 33 or 34
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feet tall used to be 100 feet tall
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and that caused a major problem
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with the city and
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whatnot
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so picture this flagpole which is three
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times well let's say two times the size
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of
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the house itself
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multiply that time so like a skyscraper
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tall flagpole
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very fascinating very interesting
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to say the least this house has been
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painted like this since 1978 in this
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neighborhood this very neighborhood here
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and I can imagine you know I didn't
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really research a lot of this before
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showing up
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but I can imagine that there are
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probably some in the neighborhood that
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probably don't want to house painted
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like that all those years but
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still here
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still back there
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made it over to downtown now downtown
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Orlando
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because it got me thinking when I was
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over in Fern Park at the station
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I got to thinking about a new exhibit
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last time I was here at the Orange
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County Regional History Center they were
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setting up for an exhibit of 80s 90s and
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early 2000s don't quote me on that I
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won't realize until I get inside but
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kind of an earlier history from a couple
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decades ago of the music scene the
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underground punk rock ND emo all you
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know all the different labels for it
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here in town and I wanted to see if that
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is open
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at the moment it's about 4 P.M so I
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would imagine it's probably open until
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you know five or six
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so I'm going to see what that exhibit is
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all about inside there
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kind of figured it'd be a good tie-in
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I was kind of mentioning some of the
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concerts I went to back in the day it's
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in the Old Courthouse here
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next to the library the library is right
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over here
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over here at this Center I highly
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recommend this place
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also they have some of the
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some old postcards of what Orange Ave
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used to look like
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there's the Old Courthouse there that's
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the 1892 Courthouse
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but there's a lot of history inside here
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in fact it's called The History Center
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Wall Street right over here
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the social used to be downtown Jazz and
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Blues Club over on the Orange Ave over
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that way and the exhibit is known as oh
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yeah so there's a name for it it's
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called music in Mayhem
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right there it runs
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a full year wow September to September
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so it just started
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and it goes for a full year
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all right I'm going in the hours are 10
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a.m to 5 p.m and Sunday noon to 5 P.M
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adult admission eight dollars
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all right I paid the six dollar
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admission fee since it is 4 P.M and
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they're closing an hour from right now
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they offer a two dollar discount so
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instead of being eight dollars gonna be
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six dollars this is kind of need these
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two Bayers are from a furniture store
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right over here so there's a lot of a
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lot of pretty neat history in here and
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the exhibit I'm going to is up on the
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second floor of this staircase up to the
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second floor but I tell you there's a
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lot in here all the different levels but
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I think I have enough time to see what I
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need to see in here in the time allotted
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all right that was pretty dang cool not
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an exorbitantly large display it takes
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up a section of the second floor
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not the entire to the second floor but a
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good portion of it there are four or
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five major exhibit areas
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really leaning into the history of some
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of these certain venues all that ring a
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bell to me
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during that time frame you know during
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the 90s
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you know early 90s mid 90s late 90s
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early 2000s
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kind of stretching through I like a
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theming with the Flyers on the wall and
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everything in fact some of the Flyers
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ring a bell for me because I went to a
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lot of these shows like the voodoo
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glosco's youth created gray before my
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eyes at Sapphire supper club which also
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used to be the social also was the
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downtown Jazz and Blues club before that
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in fact there's one flyer for a month
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that I went to a couple of different
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shows like Voodoo close at youth Brigade
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which is on this flyer and shyster which
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was one of my favorite local bands at
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the time
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I think probably still one of the
25:07
probably the best Orlando punk bands and
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Cosmo Kramers I remember the singer of
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the cosmo Kramers used to have punk
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shows at his house back in the day you'd
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have like House shows which was pretty
25:17
cool Reverend Horton Heat and Donkey I
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went to this show in fact I saw Reverend
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weren't hate quite a few times in
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Orlando and later when I joined the band
25:24
gutter mouth we did like a three-week
25:26
tour with the Rev so I got to know those
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guys and see those guys
25:29
perform quite a bit there's also some
25:31
artifacts like the guitar case only used
25:33
by Sonic Youth for 1988 performance when
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they played at The Beacham Theater which
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is right next to downtown Jazz and Blues
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Club so they have this on hand as well
25:44
and unwritten law Sprung Monkey
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I went to this show as well on rent law
25:48
became friends with the guys in the
25:50
Sprung Monkey live with a guy and they
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stayed at our house
25:54
when Sprung Monkey was on the good times
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tour with Blink 182 seven seconds so
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later on you know I got to know those
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guys go to a lot of shows on written law
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of course I really like it that's the
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unwritten unwritten law flyer The
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Ramones who played I didn't realize the
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date but it was March 5th they played at
26:09
the edge I was at this Ramon show I got
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to see the Ramones when they were still
26:13
together which was like a huge bucket
26:15
list I'm really glad to have done that
26:17
belly and Radiohead played a place
26:19
called The saws which is on orange
26:20
blossom tree kind of near Fairville mega
26:22
store like past that it was called
26:24
Visage now it's like a warehouse
26:26
District but I got to see Radiohead in a
26:28
small venue before they got like
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massively popular and also the Dead
26:33
Kennedys played in Orlando as well I
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never even heard of this venue but the
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Dead Kennedys back in 1985 played at a
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place called the Syrian Lebanese
26:42
American Club and the promoter
26:45
ended up telling the club that it was
26:47
going to be a birthday party because a
26:49
lot of these bands I remember I didn't
26:50
go to the Elliott Smith show I do
26:52
remember my roommate at the time used to
26:53
listen to Sunny Day real estate quite a
26:55
bit didn't go to the icky pop show
26:57
but I went to quite a few of things
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around here in fact we continue this way
27:02
I'll show where the Beacham theater used
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to be it's called something else now and
27:05
I'll show where the sapphire
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social downtown Jazz and Blues Club was
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I think I think it's still open I think
27:11
it's still open but it's down Wall
27:12
Street over onto Orange all right it is
27:15
still the beach and Beach them right
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so it's still called The Beacham and the
27:19
social right next to us you got social
27:22
and the beach room right here on orange
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now I must admit in all the years I went
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to shows back then a lot of shows around
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town The Edge Visage Club nowhere
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you know all the ones that I kind of
27:33
miss are the social downtown jobs I
27:34
never went to a show at The Beacham I
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never did one that I really regret going
27:38
to in that time frame was fugazi played
27:40
here for some reason it slipped past my
27:42
radar I never I never went to it now the
27:44
social I've been to probably hundreds of
27:45
shows out in fact later when I joined
27:47
bands later on in my life I played in
27:50
here quite quite a few times inside the
27:53
social but this whole stretch I went to
27:55
a lot of shows it used to be a venue
27:56
right here where I saw the toasters in
27:58
Murphy's Law
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I think it was called Barbarella saw
28:01
scheister here should I share the the
28:03
Orlando punk band I probably saw 50
28:05
times I had one of the best Orlando Punk
28:07
pants and around the back of Barbarella
28:10
he used to have an outdoor stage and I
28:12
Saw The Bouncing Souls
28:14
a bunch of other bands too The Bouncing
28:16
Souls I really remember the most now
28:18
it's called The Patio back here and then
28:20
of course Planet Pizza after a good punk
28:22
rock show a slice of pizza in here was
28:24
always kind of like the thing to do good
28:25
to see this place is still open
28:27
kind of funny too you know when I was in
28:29
the band we'd always Park back here this
28:31
is where you'd load in and out
28:33
the back of the social is over there you
28:35
kind of load it that way I knew there
28:37
was a rooftop bar between The Beacham
28:39
and the social above the social but I
28:41
never saw really what was back here
28:44
every time I would load in
28:46
or going through the back I never looked
28:47
up there to notice the really ever been
28:49
up in that in that section before that's
28:52
pretty interesting right here on the
28:54
back side of Planet Pizza
28:59
yeah this brings back a lot of memories
28:59
that's the back door
29:00
over there at the social
29:03
ah I Punk rocked us a long time ago made
29:06
it over onto Mills Avenue now
29:09
the new Wills Pub which is over there of
29:12
course I say new it's been there 20 plus
29:13
years
29:14
the other Wills Pub was in a different
29:16
spot about a mile down the road I
29:19
remember both Will's Pub
29:21
on the corner of Canton and Mills I
29:24
typed that address in 1017 Mills and
29:27
this pops up which is now a public
29:28
storage building could have been
29:31
remodeled
29:33
I'm not sure if this is the original
29:34
building
29:35
where Jello and his band could have
29:38
performed now there's a North and South
29:40
Mills the South Mills 1017 is a
29:43
residential area so I'm pretty confident
29:45
it's not the South Mills one it's the
29:47
North Mills one which is going to be on
29:48
this little stretch of road so according
29:51
to the address and according to that
29:52
flyer that was at the exhibit
29:54
this is where they performed right here
29:57
in fact 10 17 if you type it into
29:59
coordinates is the second little chunk
30:02
so basically starting here and going
30:05
this way so since 85 that building where
30:08
they said we're going to have a birthday
30:09
party ended up having one of the
30:11
craziest punk rock shows
30:14
probably one of the craziest punk rock
30:15
shows in Orlando history took place
30:18
right here
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pretty fascinating
30:28
this here's 10 here's 10 11.
30:28
10 17. right here
30:37
right next to Wally's since 1954 while
30:37
his liquor with this classic neon here
30:47
which is close today
30:47
it's a Monday as a recording of This
30:49
they're closed on Mondays yeah right
30:51
next to tattoo shop
30:54
according to the flyer that's the
30:56
address would have been right here
30:57
pretty wild and then across the way over
31:01
is lose which is a underground punk rock
31:05
bar as well a lot of bands playing there
31:08
I played in there a lot of bands have
31:09
played inside there as well I-4 traffic
31:11
is interesting
31:14
usually runs pretty smoothly but there's
31:16
little pockets
31:17
certain times of the day that are pretty
31:19
backed up like right now
31:22
Sunset there on the clouds though makes
31:24
it all okay made it back to Celebration
31:26
my elongated Shadow well two Shadows
31:30
there's one here and then another one
31:32
which is a car pulling up
31:33
beside me how the Shadows are gone
31:36
but that's going to do it for today as I
31:39
walk around the walking trail around the
31:41
lake here
31:43
like Reinhardt
31:46
it's dark out here now
31:48
it was a fun day reminiscing
31:50
I always think about reminiscing a very
31:52
nostalgic not only about things that I
31:54
like but also things in my life memories
31:58
well I look back on
32:00
this time frame in my life 20 years from
32:03
now being nostalgic about this also
32:05
will I be as nostalgic about what's
32:08
happening now as I am about things
32:13
currently
32:14
that happened 20 years ago
32:21
does nostalgia ever end and is there a
32:21
cut-off point for Nostalgia or is it
32:23
something that just happens
32:25
in my life between a certain time frame
32:28
but I'm nostalgic about my extreme
32:30
younger years
32:32
teenage years
32:34
and adult life and I'm nostalgic about
32:36
stuff that happened
32:38
20 years ago
32:47
I guess what the answer is
32:47
I don't know but I'm leaning towards yes
32:53
you're on these Bridges through
32:53
celebration over the swamps remember do
32:55
not feed the squirrels
33:09
I don't know the scroll the squirrels
33:09
out at this hour it might be
33:12
that's going to do it for today thanks
33:14
for watching I had no real game plan
33:15
when I started
33:18
think about certain days it'll like
33:20
morph wherever the wind blows or
33:22
whatever like my mind will think of one
33:23
thing like I'm gonna go over there do
33:24
that that's kind of what today was I
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appreciate you watching
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I do I'll see you in the next video
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the Vlog
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this Vlog is in fact